tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post1875469308400733620..comments2024-02-17T14:57:50.954-05:00Comments on The Verdant Dude: Who Ya Got?Verdant Earlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-6905404073200627912009-06-11T00:53:48.119-04:002009-06-11T00:53:48.119-04:00I am soo behind in your blog. I hadn't realiz...I am soo behind in your blog. I hadn't realized. Anyway, I was born in Chicago, so clearly... the above discussions were moot.Faiqahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14195313677689473346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-82205937066780148122009-06-03T17:08:27.652-04:002009-06-03T17:08:27.652-04:00Uncool - OK, Fordham I get...but at Mets games? Y...Uncool - OK, Fordham I get...but at Mets games? You sure? Maybe it was an inter-league game with the Yanks? Because that would be just wrong!<br /><br />Seals - Once in a while? If it was a four hour trip home I would stay over every night.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-7735764775132854872009-06-03T14:48:38.234-04:002009-06-03T14:48:38.234-04:00What's great is to see Busch Stadium packed on...What's great is to see Busch Stadium packed on a random Tuesday against the Nationals or something. It's crazy.<br /><br />I know I guy who lives in Springfield, Mo., (four hours south-west of St. Louis) who never misses a game. That's a hell of a drive, even if he stays overnight once in a while. Crazy.Sealshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575904083933131458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-62632983263003357862009-06-03T08:22:38.440-04:002009-06-03T08:22:38.440-04:00I'be actually seen Freddy at Fordham basketbal...I'be actually seen Freddy at Fordham basketball games and even a Mets game. The man gets around.Kevin McKeeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10673014424525900380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-38229701488721612612009-06-02T22:10:10.676-04:002009-06-02T22:10:10.676-04:00Poppy - if you can still love NY after a day at th...Poppy - if you can still love NY after a day at the DMV, then you REALLY love NY!Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-32430621384162283352009-06-02T21:15:52.742-04:002009-06-02T21:15:52.742-04:00After yesterday's complete conversion to Newyo...After yesterday's complete conversion to Newyorkism, I vote New York down the party line. GO YANKEES!<br /><br />(My mom is swearing at me right now. We're supposed to go BOSOX.)Poppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00059516280044760920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-18064982581282286982009-06-02T21:04:19.388-04:002009-06-02T21:04:19.388-04:00RW - Mum is the word.
Heff - But 'bama has it...RW - Mum is the word.<br /><br />Heff - But 'bama has it's own charms, neh? <br /><br />Sybil - that's because you are both lovely and smart.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-91744247090026694052009-06-02T18:03:21.083-04:002009-06-02T18:03:21.083-04:00Gotta go with NY, overall. I love Chicago, too, bu...Gotta go with NY, overall. I love Chicago, too, but I'd pick NY over it almost any time.sybil lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629349319977383547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-51074161415192470142009-06-02T16:57:57.727-04:002009-06-02T16:57:57.727-04:00Can't we all just get along !? Being in 'Bama, I'd...Can't we all just get along !? Being in 'Bama, I'd be happy with either !Heffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13396114362826135207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-16225195875132459372009-06-02T16:41:17.675-04:002009-06-02T16:41:17.675-04:00Sssh... there's a quiz on the Whales later!Sssh... there's a quiz on the Whales later!RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-77158233661847691732009-06-02T16:13:53.282-04:002009-06-02T16:13:53.282-04:00RW - Wow! That is very cool, and I didn't know th...RW - Wow! That is very cool, and I didn't know that. You know that Wrigley wasn't built for the Cubs, right?<br /><br />Seals - I won't even argue. Every time I see the Cards on television I am amazed at the sea of Cardinal red in the stands. Great fans! Boston, I hate to say it, has the best (most knowledgeable) fans of any stadium I have been to. I also hate to say it, but New York has become terrible for it. My last NY/Boston game at the Stadium the Sox fans were much louder and far more knowledgeable. Since the mid-90's the type of fan in NY has changed drastically. More corporate VIPs than fans. Shame.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-6407325496995943072009-06-02T14:44:49.994-04:002009-06-02T14:44:49.994-04:00St. Louis, the city, finishes behind almost any ci...St. Louis, the city, finishes behind almost any city except for maybe Detroit or Gary, Indiana. However, you did happen to pick a couple of subjects where St. Louis could do OK.<br /><br />St. Louis-style pizza, namely Imo's Pizza, has a very thin crust with a local processed cheese called Provel. I love it but at least half of the people here despise it, especially the transplants. IMHO, Imo's is better than Chicago-style but not as good as New York.<br /><br />The first "hot dog on a bun" was invented by a St. Louisan. It was also first introduced as ballpark food in St. Louis. Chicago and New York took the dog and ran with it, but you've got to give St. Louis a strong third place over any other comers.<br /><br />Ballpark? The new Busch is probably about like the new stadiums in New York and Chicago's U.S. Cellular Field. New York probably spent the most money, so I'll put them No. 1. Wrigley Field puts Chicago in third.<br /><br />Baseball fans? St. Louis wins in a rout. I could go on, but it's pretty much common knowledge that baseball's best fan-base is in St. Louis.<br /><br />1. New York<br />2. St. Louis<br />3. ChicagoSealshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575904083933131458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-48351615642397897442009-06-02T14:24:45.163-04:002009-06-02T14:24:45.163-04:00oh and...? When his Dad was working as a promotion...oh and...? When his Dad was working as a promotions guy for the Cubs it was Bill who planted the vines in Wrigley. Not "had the idea" - but got down and planted them with a small crew. <br /><br />He's everywhere.RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-22658564560244549082009-06-02T14:20:12.747-04:002009-06-02T14:20:12.747-04:00I had the distinct pleasure of having Bill Veeck b...I had the distinct pleasure of having Bill Veeck buy me a beer or two at Murphy's across from Wrigley Field when he was a daily visitor to the centerfield bleachers before he died. We gabbed for an hour. Just me and him. I thought it was the most unique thing in the world - turns out I'm one of a thousand guys he's done that to before he died. Never forget it though.RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-51920148584611753162009-06-02T14:12:08.943-04:002009-06-02T14:12:08.943-04:00RW - I hear what you are saying about Wrigley. An...RW - I hear what you are saying about Wrigley. And maybe time is affecting my memory. The last time I was there was in 2000 or 2001, and it was 1998 before that. So it has been a while. I was a bit more of a partying pup back in those days.<br /><br />I will always say that new Comiskey has the best stadium food I have ever had. Period. I couldn't get over how good the food was there compared to the crap they serve at Yankee Stadium.<br /><br />Ya gotta love Bill Veeck. The man was...different. :) One great semi-true story about him is that he tried to buy the Philadelphia Phillies in 1942 and stock it with stars from the Negro Leagues, but Mountain Landis vetoed the sale. There is some argument over whether that is true or not, but the main did integrate the American League while owner of the Indians in '47.<br /><br />Plus he hired Max Patkin as a coach for the Tribe. That move alone makes him cool in my book. Add Eddie Gaedel, sound effects, fireworks, supporting Curt Flood, Minnie Minosa, getting Harry Caray to sing "Take Me Out..." and Disco Demolition night to that and it only proves the man was a genius.<br /><br />A baseball man.<br /><br />There are so few of them left in the world.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-30646202665296245752009-06-02T13:50:55.867-04:002009-06-02T13:50:55.867-04:00Couple things from Chicago again - you know my wif...Couple things from Chicago again - you know my wife and I have pizza here just about twice a month and the last time I had "deep dish" was, like, I wanna say 1993. Deep Dish was invented here and so I guess it's a "Chicago pizza" but I'm not so sure. I don't much care for it, and the bulk of the get-togethers you go to - Super Bowl parties or whatever - the Deep mDish is no where to be seen. So there's that.<br /><br />But I'll back Seals up on Wrigley Field - and take it a step farther. It's kind of a stereotype by now but, I still believe it to be true, Wrigley Field is like a frat party. Nobody under 30 is probably there for the baseball or would know what a Hit and Run is. They gab on their cell phones, try to get a fuck buddy for the night and sing their song in the bottom of the 7th. "Cubbies". Who the hell calls their team "Cubbies"?<br /><br />The White Sox, being on the south side, have their roots in the Union Stockyards and steel mills and have always been a more working class crowd. It's a bit rougher - in the old days the fight in the stands was better than the fight in the team - but there is this feeling of a more baseball than a social thing. Then there's the bad news that lends a kind of aura over the team. 1919, Disco demolition, first team to put names on the backs and have an exploding scoreboard (Bill Veeck is a saint here), and before he went to the North Side Harry Carey was here alongside Jimmy Piersall who would have a psychotic break every once in a while. <br /><br />The new stadium for the Sox is good in that it's still "close" to the play but it's far superior to Wrigley or even the old Comiskey Park - which was another historic dump we used to have. I mean - get a Polish sausage and lather it up with horseradish mustard. The food has always been better with the Sox.<br /><br />I will make a small argument about football that will run like this:<br /><br />Bronco Nagurski, Dick Butkis, Walter Payton, George Halas, Jim McMahon, Refrigerator Perry, Mike Ditka, Joe Fortunato, Ed Obradovich, Mike Singletary and Buddy Ryan. We'll let that stand for that part.RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-9786052540583747492009-06-02T13:11:19.356-04:002009-06-02T13:11:19.356-04:00Seals - but how does it compare to St. Louis? ;) ...Seals - but how does it compare to St. Louis? ;) I know Wrigley is tight, smelly, old and anything else you wanna call it. I just love the atmosphere, the people, the ivy, the neighborhood and the feel for how old it is. Fenway has that, to some extant. Yankee Stadium used to as well.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-8248781943277789682009-06-02T12:50:06.973-04:002009-06-02T12:50:06.973-04:00The pizza isn't even close. New York, by a mile.
...The pizza isn't even close. New York, by a mile.<br /><br />I've never had a New York hot dog but I'm going to call it even. I mean, seriously, how can you fuck up a hot dog?<br /><br />Of the four stadiums in question, I've only been to Wrigley. It's a dump! I'll never understand how people can feel such love for a place that's been soaked in beer and urine for more than 100 years! ... I'm voting for New York.<br /><br />Sports fans? I'll never understand East Coast sports fans. Never. Chicago wins this one, hands down.<br /><br />By my book, New York wins!Sealshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575904083933131458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-83571075970419102722009-06-02T12:45:20.034-04:002009-06-02T12:45:20.034-04:00Candy - grrr...Boston!!! ;)
Jenn - that new outdo...Candy - grrr...Boston!!! ;)<br /><br />Jenn - that new outdoor stadium is gonna be awfully cold in April and October (if they make the playoffs). Brrr.<br /><br />Callie - My whole point is that it isn't pizza. It's something else. A delicious something else, but something else nonetheless.<br /><br />Paige - my work here is done. ;)Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-72123999637193151082009-06-02T11:58:26.475-04:002009-06-02T11:58:26.475-04:00Oh man, now I'm hungry!Oh man, now I'm hungry!Suzi Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07950722661744383071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-73557533228610310952009-06-02T11:48:48.433-04:002009-06-02T11:48:48.433-04:00I actually like deep dish or stuffed crust better ...I actually like deep dish or stuffed crust better than thin.<br /><br />*ducks out before rotten food is thrown*Calliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495370442113920359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-79912492433269878282009-06-02T11:31:43.026-04:002009-06-02T11:31:43.026-04:00Damnit, I need "another" beer. It's food blogging...Damnit, I need "another" beer. It's food blogging today. I LOVE thin crust pizza, ANY. Stadiums...we'll ours sucks. The new outdoor Twins stadium is looking pretty cool...we shall see! Lambeau's a pretty nice stadium??<br /><br />HAPPY TUESDAY!!<br />- JenniferJennifer and Sandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11982886200936815914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-52776623398345961312009-06-02T11:17:02.441-04:002009-06-02T11:17:02.441-04:00Since I currently hail from the Sports Champions C...Since I currently hail from the Sports Champions Capital of the world, I will not weigh in on this sports city debate. I have had both dogs and pizza in both cities, and for me, I heart NYC.Candy's daily Dandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172746492146546253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-6963601100770686652009-06-02T11:08:49.924-04:002009-06-02T11:08:49.924-04:00Adam - very cool. Boston is a town that I dig in ...Adam - very cool. Boston is a town that I dig in a big way. Besides the Red Sox, of course. But my real last name and my famous Irish relatives will often garner me free booze when I am out and about in town. Plus it is so small that it is kinda cute. It could fit in Brooklyn's back pocket!Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-56891931665944796092009-06-02T10:53:47.051-04:002009-06-02T10:53:47.051-04:00Yup. I was born in Boston. I'm actually going ba...Yup. I was born in Boston. I'm actually going back to visit family this weekend.Avitablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08541188721193079705noreply@blogger.com