tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post7598123044187473006..comments2024-02-17T14:57:50.954-05:00Comments on The Verdant Dude: All the world's a stage...Verdant Earlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-4481354895634453092010-05-21T20:09:18.132-04:002010-05-21T20:09:18.132-04:00There is movie making and then there is the Hollyw...There is movie making and then there is the Hollywood machine. I can think of a bunch of great actors that have never been given their due. (Chrisine Lotti, comes to mind), and then there are others that must give their agents never ending blow jobs to keep them working (Keanu comes to mind along with countless others). An exceptional actor will shine through in the right role, and some just get lucky. I caught Gabaday Sidebay (or what ever her name is) on SNL....and she was atrocious. She obviously can't act. Then I recall Jack Nickelson in "Chinatown" or Steve McQueen in the "Sand Peebles" and you wonder, how they didn't win an Oscar.Bruce Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10898228670873232050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-88365167299529655192010-05-20T23:56:57.617-04:002010-05-20T23:56:57.617-04:00Limpy - Terribly sorry, mate. I forgot about your...Limpy - Terribly sorry, mate. I forgot about your man-crush on the little feller.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-34041715604822966192010-05-20T23:17:26.225-04:002010-05-20T23:17:26.225-04:00You shut your whore mouth about Keanu Reeves!!!You shut your whore mouth about Keanu Reeves!!!limpy99https://www.blogger.com/profile/06975672608204212282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-24375085211131244592010-05-20T20:07:41.881-04:002010-05-20T20:07:41.881-04:00Holly - I dunno. I kinda dig when I watching Gary...Holly - I dunno. I kinda dig when I watching Gary Oldman act and I have that moment when I realize "Holy crap! That's Gary Oldman!". That's impressive to me.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-63813597738490161362010-05-20T16:01:52.696-04:002010-05-20T16:01:52.696-04:00Yes, I disagree with RW. I'm right though.
B...Yes, I disagree with RW. I'm right though. <br /><br />Because really, if any actor can whisper their presence underneath a role, then it means more. <br /><br />Especially to any of us here, who create blogs and fancy the process of creating itself. And if a actor/creating puts themselves out there and does a bang up job with a role, well, they should let themselves be known. <br /><br />That way we can cheer them on and live vicariously through their layered creative process.<br /><br />WHEW!!! That's some deep thoughts. <br /><br />I think I passed out there for a moment!Mrs. Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15360433416733092249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-15912739275973279662010-05-20T12:50:11.690-04:002010-05-20T12:50:11.690-04:00Heff - Never. He was kinda entertaining in Bill &...Heff - Never. He was kinda entertaining in Bill & Ted and Parenthood, but that's about all.<br /><br />Sybil - I get the Tom Cruise hatred. But say what you will about him, he certainly seems like he gives his all to every role. Doesn't make him a good actor, but at least he seems to be trying.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-4840161873236465972010-05-20T11:56:28.997-04:002010-05-20T11:56:28.997-04:00Keanu is 2nd in line to my hatred - right after To...Keanu is 2nd in line to my hatred - right after Tom Cruise.<br />I do think it falls on the actor. Actors are paid a gigantic sum of money to deliver. Directors can only direct them there. Roles are written, and sometimes, probably, an actor turns a role into something bigger and better, and sometimes, much, much worse.<br />Maybe we should be bitching about the casting agent!sybil lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629349319977383547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-43246752102979441632010-05-20T10:54:23.431-04:002010-05-20T10:54:23.431-04:00I think it's ALL on the shoulders of the actor...I think it's ALL on the shoulders of the actor, not the role.<br /><br />Have you EVER seen anything Keanu Reeves was good in ?!?Heffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13396114362826135207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-71545806691420528032010-05-20T10:45:43.424-04:002010-05-20T10:45:43.424-04:00Avitable - I know a lot of folks who don't min...Avitable - I know a lot of folks who don't mind Keanu in The Matrix, but think about how much better it COULD have been.<br /><br />Holly - So your thought (seeing the whispers of the actual person underneath the character) are the opposite of what RW said. Interesting.<br /><br />Slyde - He would have been better than Keanu!<br /><br />Paticus - That's why Shakespeare in Love won a bunch of Oscars.Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-12659243960505668672010-05-20T10:39:26.983-04:002010-05-20T10:39:26.983-04:00It's all lighting and costumes.It's all lighting and costumes.Paticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04412270073568754882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-36427263952818532322010-05-20T09:03:49.627-04:002010-05-20T09:03:49.627-04:00im pretty sure that WIll Smith was more than CONSI...im pretty sure that WIll Smith was more than CONSIDERED for the role. The way i understood it, it was pretty much his role, and then he backed out at the last minute.Slydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02170343849186268727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-44306947672255897642010-05-20T08:35:05.697-04:002010-05-20T08:35:05.697-04:00um. watched the wickerman clip.
um. REALLY??
y...um. watched the wickerman clip. <br /><br /><br />um. REALLY??<br /><br />you weren't kiddin when you said it was a comedy. Sure had me laughing.<br /><br />:)<br /><br />as for the central debate. The role is paramount, but, it takes a great actor to both play it, but make it their own.<br /><br />For instance. When Lorne Michaels has any do impressions of celebrities on SNL, he makes sure you can see whispers of the comedian underneath.<br /><br />THAT'S THE ticket, see the whispers of the actual person underneath the character. <br /><br />:)<br /><br />goddamn that wicker man clip was funny. :)Mrs. Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15360433416733092249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-72354195794926316372010-05-20T07:43:40.134-04:002010-05-20T07:43:40.134-04:00It's the writing and the director, I think. A...It's the writing and the director, I think. A good director with a good plot can pull off some very cool things with a mediocre actor. That's why I don't mind Keanu in The Matrix. And that's why DeNiro has had some good roles when he's not given the New Yorker tough guy/dad/gangster role.Avitablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08541188721193079705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-55913578873764178672010-05-20T01:04:51.740-04:002010-05-20T01:04:51.740-04:00Dave2 - yeah, I figured it might be a futile exerc...Dave2 - yeah, I figured it might be a futile exercise trying to pick one over the other. <br /><br />RW - I still haven't seen either of those Streep films. Is she as good as she was in Mamma Mia? (just kidding)Verdant Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03139591223231428391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-67355541164929689912010-05-20T00:42:18.169-04:002010-05-20T00:42:18.169-04:00Well I dunno! I promised a little money under the ...Well I dunno! I promised a little money under the table if you shot me a link every now and again but - you know - there's a limit to my bank account here dude.<br /><br />At any rate I'll say this, because nobody asked me, there's a mechanism to it. I came up in Chicago when Malkovich and Mantegna and that crowd were doing Steppenwolf and had a few parts here and there and you learn... the entire key is to get the audience - live or not - to completely forget you when you are doing your role. It's harder when the actor doesn't have a body of work but the point is the actor isn't saying his lines and he isn't mocking emotions for the audience to read. When they say "inhabit" the part what they're saying is the audience isn't supposed to see the work. The work should be finished and the character exists in your place. It's not easy - which is why I don't do it. Couldn't hit a curveball, let's just say.<br /><br />An example of what I'm talking about is Meryl Streep. Connect her from Prada to Julia and there's the example; there is nothing reminiscent between the two characters. There are no Streepian traits you can pick out in the cgaracters that connect them like, let's say, DeNiro's same old tired old ridiculous same old goddam same cadence and NY tinge and sounds like your father in every role he plays lately bullcrap. <br /><br />An actor isn't supposed to say their lines, he's supposed to be the character, speaking.<br /><br />And I love my trolls. I'm making a collection of sayings and I'm going to post them on the sidebar. I work hard for that.RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32194857.post-8796975863440408462010-05-20T00:33:12.992-04:002010-05-20T00:33:12.992-04:00It depends.
I've seen great actors turn to sh...It depends.<br /><br />I've seen great actors turn to shit in crappy roles. I've seen crappy actors look like geniuses in great roles.Dave2https://www.blogger.com/profile/15376066552003396828noreply@blogger.com